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Would someone care to explain to me why people, authority figures especially, feel the need to publicly advertise their drunken asses? It really doesn't say much when so-called role models behave like a bunch of hicks on the Fourth of July (but without the illegal fireworks, at least as far as I know). With all this nonsense people spout about trust and family here, it's really hard to get to that point when some people act like this.

Still.

Date: 2004-09-14 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-tarot.livejournal.com
Still, if the staff members are going to suggest that is it irresponsible of us to drink to excess, would it not be prudent for them to not take the tactic of "Do as I say, not as I do." ?

I am sure Mr. Summers is under a great deal of stress, but I do not care for having authority figures who tell me one thing and then do another. Lead by example, is that not what they always tell us older students in regards to our much younger roommates?

Re: Still.

Date: 2004-09-14 12:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-vega.livejournal.com
Define excess.

Define responsible behaviour.

A person of age has a few drinks and behaves in a harmlessly silly manner. He doesn't get sick, he doesn't harm himself, he doesn't harm anyone else. I'm still failing to see the problem.

Would it have been my choice? No. That's why I make sure not to use these things while under the influence. I still am not seeing the place where a moment's silliness negates or harms anything else.

Re: Still.

Date: 2004-09-14 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-tarot.livejournal.com
How odd. You question -my- ability to do a very simple and nearly stress-free teaching job when I make one - and I have only ever made -one- questionable post. Yet you defend an older, supposedly more responsible co-worker who is under more stress in a more difficult job.

This is a double standard.

Re: Still.

Date: 2004-09-14 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-vega.livejournal.com
Did I question your ability? No. You're still working. If I questioned it, I'd not let you have the job. I offered to find a replacement for you. Hardly a double standard.

Oh, by the way, there is a double standard for people of different levels of maturity and experience. End of story. I'm not fair, no. I'm okay with that.

Re: Still.

Date: 2004-09-14 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-tarot.livejournal.com
Yes. Your standard is higher than mine. Adults in this country have more privlidges, yes? And more responsibilites. Maybe Quebec is different, I suppose, but I doubt it.

Which means Mr. Summers should not be posting drunkenly.

As you say, end of story.

Re: Still.

Date: 2004-09-14 12:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-vega.livejournal.com
I'm afraid we'll have to disagree on that, I suppose. We do have a very different view of alcohol, that's certain.

I wasn't comparing adults and children. I was comparing people with different levels of maturity and experience. There is a difference.

Re: Still.

Date: 2004-09-14 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-tarot.livejournal.com
Perhaps it is simply because I grew up with wine at dinner that I do not see how public drunkenness is -ever- acceptable. You learn your limits early and then do not exceed them, or if you do, you face the consequences.

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