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I know this isn't the right time for this, but apart of me feels like it is. I'm not looking for a fight, but it's gonna come out that way because I've been thinking about it and I'm a little tired of people saying the same thing.

"You're not on the team, you don't know any better, you don't understand and you don't know what you're talking about."

Just because we're not on the team doesn't mean we don't know what we're talking about. Maybe we don't know all the details but it'd be really nice if you stop saying stuff like that.

I have my opinions and I reckon I'm allowed to put them out there. I found the last days troubling, from both what's been happening and how it's panned out in everyone around me. I'm not on the team for just that reason. Because I can't do attacks and I can't steel myself from things like someone dying, or someone gettin the tar beaten out of them, even though they've fallen already. I don't care that he's killed millions of people. Two wrongs don't make a right.

I don't think this is gonna solve anything or settle the upset stomach I have everytime I think about those looks that I caught when they were burnin off their anger. I get it, everyone's mad as hell, but I'm not cold hearted and I'm not like that. I can't relate.

Date: 2008-10-30 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-aerial.livejournal.com
I am merely pointing out how it could be taken. While I agree that I did not see any reason for the continued attacks after the man was down, your post does seem to entirely bypass the fact that he caused horrible things to happen, believed that he had the right to do these things, and that he did need to be stopped. At all costs, I am sure some would say.

Date: 2008-10-30 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-icarus.livejournal.com
At all costs, is what bothers me. Wouldn't that be takin on his mentality? Makes us no better than our attacker.

Date: 2008-10-30 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-aerial.livejournal.com
He caused harm for the betterment of himself. He was brought down for the betterment of others.

Date: 2008-10-30 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-forge.livejournal.com
Incorrect. I would argue that while one's motivations are a factor in the ethics of an action, only the result of the action truly matters. You're dealing with a real sensitive area concerning the ethics of escalation of force, especially when there's an unknown quantity in the equation.

At the point where Apocalypse was brought down, none of us knew exactly how much he could withstand or how much of a threat he still was. Given the previous displays of power, I would make the argument that it served the greater good to err on the side of excessive force.

There is a difference between celebrating victory and celebrating the methods used. To revel in saving the day is an acceptable act. It's a celebration of life and a reaffirmation of a just cause. To revel in the violence, that is abhorrent.

I think everyone, in the end, has to answer to their own conscience for their actions and the methods used to what amounted to a noble end.

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