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Jay Guthrie ([personal profile] x_icarus) wrote2008-10-30 03:34 pm

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I know this isn't the right time for this, but apart of me feels like it is. I'm not looking for a fight, but it's gonna come out that way because I've been thinking about it and I'm a little tired of people saying the same thing.

"You're not on the team, you don't know any better, you don't understand and you don't know what you're talking about."

Just because we're not on the team doesn't mean we don't know what we're talking about. Maybe we don't know all the details but it'd be really nice if you stop saying stuff like that.

I have my opinions and I reckon I'm allowed to put them out there. I found the last days troubling, from both what's been happening and how it's panned out in everyone around me. I'm not on the team for just that reason. Because I can't do attacks and I can't steel myself from things like someone dying, or someone gettin the tar beaten out of them, even though they've fallen already. I don't care that he's killed millions of people. Two wrongs don't make a right.

I don't think this is gonna solve anything or settle the upset stomach I have everytime I think about those looks that I caught when they were burnin off their anger. I get it, everyone's mad as hell, but I'm not cold hearted and I'm not like that. I can't relate.

[identity profile] x-icarus.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't know that and no one explained that until now. Thankyou. It just seemed like everyone was enjoying it just a bit too much. And maybe I'm wrong for it, but I sympathized on some level. Maybe what he's doing isn't right but... whether you kill one person or many, havn't we seen a lot of people already forgive and forget despite it? I'm not saying he's right, or dismissing all the people he killed. I just, this isn't coming out right.

[identity profile] x-forge.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
To forgive and forget requires atonement - unconditional forgiveness is the sign of brain damage. To continue to pursue the redemption of someone who has no desire for it or concept of it, doubly so.

Trust me on this, Jay. There are some people that can't be reached. It's best not to lose sleep over it.

[identity profile] x-icarus.livejournal.com 2008-10-31 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah I can see that now. Sorry.

[identity profile] x-cyclops.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
There's nothing wrong with the compassionate approach. It's just not a good fit in certain situations. If you find that the means you're willing to apply to resolve a difficult situation don't fit the situation, that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with you - just, maybe that you're not the right person to resolve that situation.

Everyone has to decide for themselves how far they're willing to go.

[identity profile] x-icarus.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I think thats just what was mostly on my mind. Why they went the lengths they did and like you said, how far they're willing to go.

[identity profile] x-wildchild.livejournal.com 2008-10-30 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a difference between what was going on there and enjoying hurting someone. Trust me, dude. I spent most of that day with a guy who likes hurting people and none of us are anything like that - it's like - okay, you know the big stupid fight Laurie and I just had? It's that. It's the difference between having to be totally fucking violent because you gotta, and doing it cause you want to.

Nobody there wants to do that stuff - everybody there HAD to.